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Looking for the sheet Music for John Prine's Paradise. My daughter is learning the guitar and I was hoping to accompany her both in melody and harmonizing. I have ended up with nothing on web searches. Will be willing to purchase if anyone knows where this is available. Thanks

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I saw it on Musicnotes.com but not for the viola.

http://www.musicnotes.com/shee.....ref=google

You could always transpose.

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Not that this gets you the sheet music you want, but here's somebody playing the tune on a 5-string Viola for reference. You might try her site or contacting her for information about the version she's playing here. http://www.annierettic.com

 

 

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Playing a viola AND singing along with it. That's a win on two fronts!

 

Her version is in D. If nothing else, that might be a starting point for a transcription.

 

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very cool !!

Bach : As the greatest expert and judge of harmony, he liked best to play the viola, with appropriate loudness and softness

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Violaman said
I saw it on Musicnotes.com but not for the viola.
http://www.musicnotes.com/shee.....ref=google
You could always transpose.

Interesting. I went and had a look at that version just now with an eye towards transcribing it for viola. The time signature does make sense, it's in D, and the range as written is just about perfect for the viola.

I'm still scratching my head a little over the timing of the melody notes themselves. What I hear in my head comes closer to a triplet feel with more than a hint of 'swing' to it. Listening to the cover version linked above, though, the treble clef transcription as printed does make sense.

Guess I'll give this one a shot. :)

 

 

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It sure does. :-)

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Just a quick update.  Things are a little crazy around here right now, what with tying up loose ends at the job site and getting ready for the move back to the Bahamas. However, I'm working on that transcription of Paradise for viola, and hope to have it posted by tomorrow evening.

 

Edited to add: Here's something about the notation choices that I don't get, and hope you can shed some light on.  Measure 18 has six eighth notes, with the middle two pairs tied, like so:

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Why is that more correct than an eighth note, two quarter notes, and another eighth?  I could point out a few other "Huh? Why?" moments, but that one example will suffice.

For the time being, though, I'm going to transcribe this as it is but simply take it into alto clef, on the assumption that whoever did the treble clef transcription knows more about the art than I do.

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Perhaps it has something to do with the phrasing when played?

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I was thinking something like that earlier today. I wonder if the intent is implied rather than explicit; perhaps an oblique reference to whatever pattern it's being played over/against?

 

 

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Do you have a clear recording of that section to listen to? That may clear up things for you.

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If it was written in 3/4 time, the beat in the above case falls between the quarter note. It would be in my mind OK to use quarter notes but there are some general rules about notation that make it easier to read music. I would still have used quarter notes.
It looks as though this piece was written in 6/8 time in which case the beat cannot fall between any beat whether played in 2 or in 6. I would change it to quarter notes. No difference with phrasing because 2 tied eighth notes are exactly the same as 1 quarter note. :-)
A lot of people make mistakes in notation just as most of us make grammatical mistakes on a daily basis. It is especially common that choral music is notated completely differently than instrumental music, therefor many choral composers do not realize the standard notation baring rules.

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Thank you for the insight, gentlemen!

Sorry I don't have the transcription posted yet. A major road trip/relocation, and the inevitable logistics, interrupted. Right now I'm cooling my heels in West Palm Beach and prepping for the Bahamas leg of the trip. I hope to be back in more regular communication within a few days.

 

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I have been away myself but am completely amazed at how much effort you've put into this so far. My daughter plays this on guitar and I hope to accompany her. I am only 15 months into playing and just now starting to learn some solid theory. I anxiously wait your score. THANKS!

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OK, so I finally made a copy of my own. Perhaps it's not 100% accurate as my theory is self taught. I brought the whole score down a fifth so I hope that will work. It seems to play out OK, or at least as well as I can get it to play given my learning curve on sight reading pieces. I am also just learning Musescore so some of the nuances of that software program still elude me. violin-studentviolin-studentviolin-student I still can not post attachments so anyone that wants a piece PM me and I will send a copy to you. 

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Can you not post attachments here but you can at Fiddlerman.com or is it the same on both sites?

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Well, I see it now... but now that I have it here. Try this out. Now I'm not that learned in transcription, but I did drop it a perfect fifth from the treble.. 

 

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Works :)

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